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john hartley: hi everyone, comments can be posted at anytime through the chat 'pod' in connect

john hartley: please feel free to suggest changes and additions to the 'lexicon' now, and as we go

Mriganka: since we are able to add only few words onto the lexicon...we hope this is going to deveop over time, right?

john hartley: i think we're ready to go.

john hartley: ...and add as many words as you feel are relevant

john hartley: is difference good? useful? problematic?

Gen Ide: everyone, me and Tadashi has English problem, so a bit warry about speed of communication...

john hartley: if you have problems hearing, you can 'put your hand up' - there's a little icon at the bottom left. Do let us know if you can't hear!!

john hartley: can economy breathe?

john hartley: to what degree does change depend upon pain?

Mriganka: lexicon from Periferry: Hybrid practices; Changing the emphasis from categorized forms of knowledge like art, technology, media and science, we strive to encourage cross-disciplinary exchange and collaborative processes. This also aims to go beyond the authorship involved in the creation of a work. It is an attempt to bridge the gap between the specialized vocabulary of science, art and the general interest of the audience?

john hartley: categorisation depends upon clarity? What happens when we can't be certain anymore?

john hartley: [David Cross presentation] 1.14 quadrillion dollars is total value of derivatives market in late 2008

john hartley: [David Cross presentation] rivers can be models for understanding our world, crisis of growth based on outdated model of planet

john hartley: commodity as separation

Gen Ide 2: my skype was cut off, i am calling now

john hartley: everyone hang up please and we'll recall you all as a conference call. thanks

john hartley: [David Cross presentation] it's a very misty and polluted picture of the river and dredgers in the distance. i'll see if we can get it loaded

john hartley: difference as muddy?

Ben Eastop: Mriganka, you can now share any files, or your whole computer screen if you choose

Gen Ide 2: ben, can you call me up on skype again? i think i was cut off

john hartley: Hi guys, we'll relaunch the conference call from Tim Eastop's computer. could you accept him as a contact please

Gen Ide: ben, can you call me up on skype again? i think i was cut off..

john hartley: Mriganka, how are you going?

tadashi: Hi I've managed to log in

john hartley: great. I hope you were able to follow David's presentation

tadashi: Yes I did. It was interesting.

tadashi: Gen wishes I upload the presentation PPT file to this system.

Ben Eastop: hold on - Mriganka is trying to re-connect

tadashi: OK. we are ready in Tokyo

john hartley: welcome back mriganka

john hartley: i was very interested in the different view points that might emerge here...

john hartley: the military have privileged access to satelites. Us normal people have troubles instead!

john hartley: an 'emergency museum' is an interesting mix of ideas. Museums are usually collections of history and emergencies are the total opposite...

Mriganka: even in our methodology we are using museum as mediums

john hartley: [Gen Ide presentation] living as experimentation

john hartley: Reinvention - a recurring theme?

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] it looks like an alien invader in the city

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] architecture or a boat? Floating architecture?

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] the definition of architecture - attached to the land?

Ben Eastop: [on Gen Ide presentation] is that price per month?

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] wow. floating is cheaper!

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] are authorities required for play?

john hartley: whose rules?

Ben Eastop: we have the same issue here on the river thames

john hartley: it's nice to hear the background of different cities over skype...

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] adventure and discovery

john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] people need more experience on the water...

john hartley: that was a very interesting presentation Gen, thanks. we all enjoyed it here

Mriganka: please go to: http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/china-denies-building-dam-on-brahmaputra-nrsa-evidence-suggests-otherwise/http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-downplays-China-s-dam-construction-on-Brahmaputra/Article1-473027.aspx

Mriganka: http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/china-denies-building-dam-on-brahmaputra-nrsa-evidence-suggests-otherwise/

Mriganka: http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-downplays-China-s-dam-construction-on-Brahmaputra/Article1-473027.aspx

john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] colonialism has taken new form

john hartley: did you say climate change and laboratory?

john hartley: fo.am? with Maya Kuzmanovic

john hartley: energy and technology - key themes

Ben Eastop: What are the artists names?

john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] solar cells, water and 'spirals'?

john hartley: please do add them. yes we think these are very important terms

john hartley: 'beyond authorship', beyond specialist vocabulary

Ben Eastop: Hybrid practices

john hartley: very, very interesting. what can laboratories be like?

Ben Eastop: beyond catagories

john hartley: art: making context

Ben Eastop: context: induce other producers to produce (Benjamin) - spectators as collaborators

Ben Eastop: flux and indigenous knowledge very releveant to the north east [of India]

john hartley: there's a very significant collision between indigenous knowledge and some methodologies of empricis... but not all

john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] term ‘alternative’ dropped

john hartley: media - a key context

Ben Eastop: you talked about using the ferry as a kind of system growing food etc. do you have a term for this?

Ben Eastop: new kind of network of energy and new political engagement - temporary space building

john hartley: very interesting and very rich

john hartley: possible network outcome: sharing methodologies

Ben Eastop: what is a network how do you function?

john hartley: possible netowork outcome: share the challenges

Ben Eastop: feedback to develop network

john hartley: ferry as a system in itself

Mriganka: lexicon points from periferry:

Hybrid practices: Changing the emphasis from categorized forms of knowledge like art, technology, media and science, we strive to encourage cross-disciplinary exchange and collaborative processes. This also aims to go beyond the authorship involved in the creation of a work. It is an attempt to bridge the gap between the specialized vocabulary of science, art and the general interest of the audience?

Laboratory: Interdisciplinary project space - scientific laboratory and artist studio are explored on the basis of their various concepts within various disciplines. It will try to search the limits and possibilities of the places where knowledge and culture are made. laboratory has multiple identities: As a museum. As a workspace. As a studio

Holistic This aims at developing an approach that is holistic and not anthropometric-Eurocentric. Anthropometry, (literally meaning measurement of humans), in physical anthropology refers to the measurement of the human individual for the purposes of…

john hartley: politicisation of science possible issue

john hartley: i think approaching this complication is very important for this project

Ben Eastop: [recording Gen’s comments] - no doubt about need for sustainable economy - but sceptical about the science – which is very complicated. The science it has become politicized.

john hartley: yes, 'The Limits of Growth 1972'

john hartley: it’s certain that availability of resources is a very politicised issue and popular imagination can become scared very easily..! Ben Eastop: [recording Gen] science of climate change is too far from the people john hartley: How do we navigate and understand the science as presented? [Mriganka] Sonal: Context driven In this passage from “The Author as Producer,” Walter Benjamin describes the vision and position of Periferry.“What matters, therefore, is the exemplary character of production, which is able first to induce other producers to produce, and second to put an improved apparatus a ttheir disposal. And this apparatus is better the more consumers it is able to turn into producers—that is, readers or spectators into collaborators. 1”We see Periferry as a context-provider stretching the concept of artistic creation from making content to making context. Context provision comprises both Benjamin’s “exemplary character of production” and his “apparatus.” A context-provider does not speak for others, but “induces” others to speak for themselves by providing both the means, or tools, and the context where they can speak and be heard. Community trans-local, flux, indigenous knowledge, biosphere, pedagogical model for our laboratory Mriganka: yes fo.am /maja Ben Eastop: sharing of methodologies and sharing of challenges

john hartley: suggested revised dates for networking events – London – Nov-Dec 10, Guwahati - Feb March 2011, Tokyo - May June 2011

Gen Ide 2: it is much easier for non-native speaker to hear to the presentation with presentation sheets.

john hartley: keep eyes open for 'encounters of difference'

john hartley: abstract, method, practical

john hartley: rich and unstable

john hartley: we will all take away something different from this meeting

john hartley: agree to establish a wiki

john hartley: a very draft wiki is already available at

http://rivertoriver.wikia.com/wiki/River_to_river_Wiki

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