john hartley: hi everyone, comments can be posted at anytime through the chat 'pod' in connect
john hartley: please feel free to suggest changes and additions to the 'lexicon' now, and as we go
Mriganka: since we are able to add only few words onto the lexicon...we hope this is going to deveop over time, right?
john hartley: i think we're ready to go.
john hartley: ...and add as many words as you feel are relevant
john hartley: is difference good? useful? problematic?
Gen Ide: everyone, me and Tadashi has English problem, so a bit warry about speed of communication...
john hartley: if you have problems hearing, you can 'put your hand up' - there's a little icon at the bottom left. Do let us know if you can't hear!!
john hartley: can economy breathe?
john hartley: to what degree does change depend upon pain?
Mriganka: lexicon from Periferry: Hybrid practices; Changing the emphasis from categorized forms of knowledge like art, technology, media and science, we strive to encourage cross-disciplinary exchange and collaborative processes. This also aims to go beyond the authorship involved in the creation of a work. It is an attempt to bridge the gap between the specialized vocabulary of science, art and the general interest of the audience?
john hartley: categorisation depends upon clarity? What happens when we can't be certain anymore?
john hartley: [David Cross presentation] 1.14 quadrillion dollars is total value of derivatives market in late 2008
john hartley: [David Cross presentation] rivers can be models for understanding our world, crisis of growth based on outdated model of planet
john hartley: commodity as separation
Gen Ide 2: my skype was cut off, i am calling now
john hartley: everyone hang up please and we'll recall you all as a conference call. thanks
john hartley: [David Cross presentation] it's a very misty and polluted picture of the river and dredgers in the distance. i'll see if we can get it loaded
john hartley: difference as muddy?
Ben Eastop: Mriganka, you can now share any files, or your whole computer screen if you choose
Gen Ide 2: ben, can you call me up on skype again? i think i was cut off
john hartley: Hi guys, we'll relaunch the conference call from Tim Eastop's computer. could you accept him as a contact please
Gen Ide: ben, can you call me up on skype again? i think i was cut off..
john hartley: Mriganka, how are you going?
tadashi: Hi I've managed to log in
john hartley: great. I hope you were able to follow David's presentation
tadashi: Yes I did. It was interesting.
tadashi: Gen wishes I upload the presentation PPT file to this system.
Ben Eastop: hold on - Mriganka is trying to re-connect
tadashi: OK. we are ready in Tokyo
john hartley: welcome back mriganka
john hartley: i was very interested in the different view points that might emerge here...
john hartley: the military have privileged access to satelites. Us normal people have troubles instead!
john hartley: an 'emergency museum' is an interesting mix of ideas. Museums are usually collections of history and emergencies are the total opposite...
Mriganka: even in our methodology we are using museum as mediums
john hartley: [Gen Ide presentation] living as experimentation
john hartley: Reinvention - a recurring theme?
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] it looks like an alien invader in the city
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] architecture or a boat? Floating architecture?
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] the definition of architecture - attached to the land?
Ben Eastop: [on Gen Ide presentation] is that price per month?
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] wow. floating is cheaper!
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] are authorities required for play?
john hartley: whose rules?
Ben Eastop: we have the same issue here on the river thames
john hartley: it's nice to hear the background of different cities over skype...
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] adventure and discovery
john hartley: [on Gen Ide presentation] people need more experience on the water...
john hartley: that was a very interesting presentation Gen, thanks. we all enjoyed it here
Mriganka: please go to: http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/china-denies-building-dam-on-brahmaputra-nrsa-evidence-suggests-otherwise/http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-downplays-China-s-dam-construction-on-Brahmaputra/Article1-473027.aspx
john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] colonialism has taken new form
john hartley: did you say climate change and laboratory?
john hartley: fo.am? with Maya Kuzmanovic
john hartley: energy and technology - key themes
Ben Eastop: What are the artists names?
john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] solar cells, water and 'spirals'?
john hartley: please do add them. yes we think these are very important terms
john hartley: 'beyond authorship', beyond specialist vocabulary
Ben Eastop: Hybrid practices
john hartley: very, very interesting. what can laboratories be like?
Ben Eastop: beyond catagories
john hartley: art: making context
Ben Eastop: context: induce other producers to produce (Benjamin) - spectators as collaborators
Ben Eastop: flux and indigenous knowledge very releveant to the north east [of India]
john hartley: there's a very significant collision between indigenous knowledge and some methodologies of empricis... but not all
john hartley: [On Mriganka and Sonal’s presentation] term ‘alternative’ dropped
john hartley: media - a key context
Ben Eastop: you talked about using the ferry as a kind of system growing food etc. do you have a term for this?
Ben Eastop: new kind of network of energy and new political engagement - temporary space building
john hartley: very interesting and very rich
john hartley: possible network outcome: sharing methodologies
Ben Eastop: what is a network how do you function?
john hartley: possible netowork outcome: share the challenges
Ben Eastop: feedback to develop network
john hartley: ferry as a system in itself
Mriganka: lexicon points from periferry:
Hybrid practices: Changing the emphasis from categorized forms of knowledge like art, technology, media and science, we strive to encourage cross-disciplinary exchange and collaborative processes. This also aims to go beyond the authorship involved in the creation of a work. It is an attempt to bridge the gap between the specialized vocabulary of science, art and the general interest of the audience?
Laboratory: Interdisciplinary project space - scientific laboratory and artist studio are explored on the basis of their various concepts within various disciplines. It will try to search the limits and possibilities of the places where knowledge and culture are made. laboratory has multiple identities: As a museum. As a workspace. As a studio
Holistic This aims at developing an approach that is holistic and not anthropometric-Eurocentric. Anthropometry, (literally meaning measurement of humans), in physical anthropology refers to the measurement of the human individual for the purposes of…
john hartley: politicisation of science possible issue
john hartley: i think approaching this complication is very important for this project
Ben Eastop: [recording Gen’s comments] - no doubt about need for sustainable economy - but sceptical about the science – which is very complicated. The science it has become politicized.
john hartley: yes, 'The Limits of Growth 1972'
john hartley: it’s certain that availability of resources is a very politicised issue and popular imagination can become scared very easily..! Ben Eastop: [recording Gen] science of climate change is too far from the people john hartley: How do we navigate and understand the science as presented? [Mriganka] Sonal: Context driven In this passage from “The Author as Producer,” Walter Benjamin describes the vision and position of Periferry.“What matters, therefore, is the exemplary character of production, which is able first to induce other producers to produce, and second to put an improved apparatus a ttheir disposal. And this apparatus is better the more consumers it is able to turn into producers—that is, readers or spectators into collaborators. 1”We see Periferry as a context-provider stretching the concept of artistic creation from making content to making context. Context provision comprises both Benjamin’s “exemplary character of production” and his “apparatus.” A context-provider does not speak for others, but “induces” others to speak for themselves by providing both the means, or tools, and the context where they can speak and be heard. Community trans-local, flux, indigenous knowledge, biosphere, pedagogical model for our laboratory Mriganka: yes fo.am /maja Ben Eastop: sharing of methodologies and sharing of challenges
john hartley: suggested revised dates for networking events – London – Nov-Dec 10, Guwahati - Feb March 2011, Tokyo - May June 2011
Gen Ide 2: it is much easier for non-native speaker to hear to the presentation with presentation sheets.
john hartley: keep eyes open for 'encounters of difference'
john hartley: abstract, method, practical
john hartley: rich and unstable
john hartley: we will all take away something different from this meeting
john hartley: agree to establish a wiki
john hartley: a very draft wiki is already available at